Comments on: Managing OERs: the problem of version control? http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2009/12/09/managing-oers-the-problem-of-version-control/ Cetis Blogs Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:47:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.22 By: Weekly Research Index | December 18, 2009 « The Xplanation http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2009/12/09/managing-oers-the-problem-of-version-control/#comment-83 Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:39:37 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/?p=592#comment-83 […] John’s JISC CETIS blog » Managing OERs: the problem of version control? — A good discussion of how to manage versioning with OERs. “This post looks at one possible administrative or management concern or challenges emerging from the technical side of working with Open Educational Resources. My response to this concern is (more than usual) opinion rather than advice and hopes to provoke some debate.” […]

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By: JohnR http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2009/12/09/managing-oers-the-problem-of-version-control/#comment-82 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:00:48 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/?p=592#comment-82 Hi Ahmed,
although Jorum is an obvious instance, in which this secondary version question, will arise for UKOER projects, I was deliberately generic as I think there is a wider question of control.

In a nutshell, once you release materials under an open license you lose control. It doesn’t really matter where you put materials- even if you just keep them on your server – an open license empowers anyone to legally download, make their own copies available and rehost and you can’t demand that they be taken down. [unless you’ve got a very odd open license; For example, I don’t think even the more restrictive forms of CC (perhaps CC BY ND NC) would prevents making and hosting identical copies].

My proposal is that once content is publicly available OER providers can’t control it so they shouldn’t waste effort or worry about trying to.

The question of secondary hosts, such as Jorum, brings this into sharper focus. As I see it UKOER projects have an obligation to provide JORUM with copies of (or in some circumstances links to) their stuff. I don’t think the projects have an obligation to keep providing copies or try to update their stuff after they’ve given it to Jorum. I can imagine that Jorum and projects may decide on policies and procedures to version content, but that is independent of the programme and reliant on both parties having the willingness and resource to manage the process – and I have no idea what Jorum’s thoughts on this are.

Edit: I don’t want to minimise the problems one would have if you released third party material, but I think once it’s openly licensed you’ve lost control – and, though there’s an element of risk involved, that’s actually a good thing

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By: Ahmed http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2009/12/09/managing-oers-the-problem-of-version-control/#comment-81 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:14:25 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/?p=592#comment-81 >>strictly speaking you have no legal right to request the removal or update of such resources. Once released under an open license the content is out of your control as long as the license is conformed to. [Note: I am not a lawyer but part of the entire point of most open licenses is that they are non-transactional and irrevocable]<<

If this is the case, then OER projects should ONLY deposit the metadata records (including a persistent link to the learning object) to the JORUM OER. This will allow projects to implement a fast take down policy in the case of any copyright issue has been risen.

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By: OER Version Control « http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2009/12/09/managing-oers-the-problem-of-version-control/#comment-80 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:06:48 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/?p=592#comment-80 […] 11, 2009 · Leave a Comment John Robertson has posted on version control for OER. Robertson argues that in the case of OER, maintaining […]

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