Comments on: considering OAI-PMH http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2011/01/21/considering-oai-pmh/ Cetis Blogs Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:47:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.22 By: JohnR http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2011/01/21/considering-oai-pmh/#comment-159 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:55:21 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/?p=1595#comment-159 Hi Roger,

I agree that many issues with aggregation are ultimately about underlying data quality. There are some issues with OAI-PMH in itself as it’s currently specified which are discussed in the above captured tweets – however, for all the problems which it may have, my colleague (Phil Barker ) was recently pointing out that one of the difficulties with OAI-PMH is that is it’s implemented by comparatively so few pieces of software that if you want to write a harvester or endpoint interface and address some of the underlying data quality issues you probably have to write everything yourself. Phil would contend that most feed technologies are so ubiquitous (Rss/ Atom) that there is a much greater chance the there are freely available software libraries addressing data quality issues that you can draw on to create your software.

in terms of going back in time … this is perhaps the greatest weakness of RSS/ATOM as it’s often implemented. The issue isn’t in the spec (as i understand it) but that it is often implemented as a (10 most recent items) newsfeed – the spec can be implemented to provide a complete listing of resources (for example listing everything or everything matching a particular criteria). If you have control over the resource providers you could use rss in this way quite effectively. however, if they’re already set up and supporting OAI-PMH, or using commercial software (which is likely to restrict how you can output the rss) – it may be more straightforward to keep using OAI-PMH (depsite the above limitations)

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By: Roger Hyam http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2011/01/21/considering-oai-pmh/#comment-158 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:57:31 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/?p=1595#comment-158 Hi,

I was wondering if you could name an aggregation protocol that is not ‘reviled’ by whoever has to use it. Aggregation is just like that!

I am wanting to suggest the use of OAI-PMH in up coming projects. I feel there must be an alternatives but have yet to find them. The main issue I have is that the main feed technologies don’t appear to allow you to go back in time. If you find out that your harvester has been unreliable for the last couple of weeks you can’t go back and say “give me everything that has changed since…” and page through to the present day. (I may be missing something in the ATOM spec but I don’t see it).

People seem to complain about OAI-PMH but as you point out that is usually to do with metadata standards not the protocol. Nobody actually proposes an alternative.

What am I missing…

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By: Tweets that mention considering OAI-PMH -- Topsy.com http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2011/01/21/considering-oai-pmh/#comment-157 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:07:56 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/?p=1595#comment-157 […] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Nick Sheppard, JohnRobertson and LEchner MONika, DigitalKoans. DigitalKoans said: Considering OAI-PMH, http://bit.ly/eIsJbz […]

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By: Dorothea Salo http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/2011/01/21/considering-oai-pmh/#comment-156 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:51:08 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/johnr/?p=1595#comment-156 I think you might be just a tiny bit optimistic about the influence repository managers have on repository developers.

Aside from that, agree wholeheartedly!

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