Comments on: Simplifying Learning Design – my response

By: Jon Dodge

Jon Dodge — Tue, 11 May 2010 13:06:40 +0000

A typo in my last message – I meant “EML” (Educational Modelling Language) not “UML”.

OK, put it this way – you’re a teacher, you’ve just created a UOL using an LD creation tool, “EasyPeasy LD 1.0″. Now what? What are you going to do with it?

By: michelle

michelle — Sun, 09 May 2010 02:39:33 +0000

“what teachers and learners actually need and what we can really expect our systems to do effectively and efficiently.”“Let’s look at what people really want to do and where there is a real gap.”“So, a simplified version may well help overcome some of these barriers and allow the not-so-technical to use tools built on the spec. ”
I fully agree with Sheila.I am chinese. and I want to know LD deeply. I think it is difficult for teachers to understand LDS and make a UOL.

By: Sheilamacneill

Sheilamacneill — Thu, 06 May 2010 08:33:53 +0000

Hi Jon

Yes, but surely we should be aiming to build tools that allow the not so technical to use the spec. TBH I think the idea of LD is so attractive that people got very excited about the possibilities of using it but haven’t actually fully understood the scope of the specifications. So, a simplified version may well help overcome some of these barriers and allow the not-so-technical to use tools built on the spec.

Sheila

By: Jon Dodge

Jon Dodge — Wed, 05 May 2010 12:20:12 +0000

IMS LD is not designed to be used by “teachers”. It’s based on UML and is designed to be used like a scripting language to produce on-line courses created by technical course developers. That’s why the OUNL use it.

And why does everything have to be made easy for “teachers”? I thought they were the ones with an education?

By: Rakeback

Rakeback — Mon, 03 May 2010 16:48:56 +0000

Same thing. Keeping things simple is always better, whether it’s for teachers or learners. “It’s better to teach with examples instead of just feeding people some formulas” <- I can’t remember who said that but it definitely applies to every learning and teaching process.

By: Romona

Romona — Mon, 03 May 2010 16:22:30 +0000

Sheila,

“Let’s look at what people really want to do and where there is a real gap. We have a wealth of designs now that we can draw on now. What are the key things people need to do but can’t just now, or could be done more effectively by some automatic processes for example grouping,populating classes?”
I have been voicing this for a while and am so glad you addressed this in your post.

Thank you,
Romona,
Publisher,kitchencarts360.com

By: Barbara

Barbara — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 00:47:54 +0000

What a refreshing concept considering what the people really want and whatthey will really use. Please continue with this thought process.

By: Liz Masterman

Liz Masterman — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:49:25 +0000

Hi Sheila,

Having spent a number of years researching into lecturers’ design practice, I couldn’t agree more!

Liz