Comments on: Utopia, dystopia, technology, education and MOOCs http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/ Cetis blog Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:54:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.22 By: EDCMOOC: Utopia, as x approaches c http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4403 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:28:47 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4403 […] for my utopian view, it’s been great watching Sheila engage in the course content. I’m drawn to her wonderful musings and love how she tries new things […]

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By: Sheilamacneill http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4402 Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:31:46 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4402 Well I think it’s a combination of using a VLE as central point, and my own decision not to go mad and try and explore all the online spaces in the first week.

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By: dickvestdijk http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4401 Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:26:50 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4401 “I’ve actually found #edcmooc a relative oasis of calm and tranquility.”
interesting thought – how do you think EDCMOOC did this?

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By: A familiar model in Coursera: e-Learning and Digital Cultures « Emily Petty Puckett Rodgers http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4400 Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:45:59 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4400 […] MacNeil nicely sums up my overall thoughts on the MOOC itself. I’ve not actually ‘taken’ any Coursera […]

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By: Sheilamacneill http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4399 Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:02:39 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4399 Thanks Colleen. Digital slaves – very dystopian. So how do we free them? Slaves uprising and seizing control themselves? Viva la revolution

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By: Colleen Muench http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4398 Wed, 06 Feb 2013 12:53:46 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4398 Nicely said Sheila. I agree with you and Kee. I really like her defining this as digital elite and digital natives… I’d like to add “digital slaves” to the mix as well. Some participants are dragged into the digital age only because they have to for survival.

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By: Sheilamacneill http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4397 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 15:25:59 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4397 Hi Kee

Thanks for your comment. I agree entirely, effective participation is new to us all right now. I think much more attention needs to be paid on support and helping learners to contextualise where and when they interact online, so that they can make effective contributions and not feel lost, overwhelmed and isolated.

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By: Kee Warner http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4396 Tue, 05 Feb 2013 15:21:26 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4396 I agree with Wayne that many students need much more face to face support to use the technology. This is my first venture (not venture capital) into MOOCs and I am still pretty unsure where to jump in…..tweet, discussion board, etc. I find my students only using the basics in Blackboard (not that it is a very nurturing or exciting virtual environment). Seems that we are talking again about a digital elite rather than a generation of digital natives….at least when it goes beyond virtual consumption.

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By: Reconnecting with oldsmooc | Breathing Space http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4395 Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:09:41 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4395 […] for my other mooc Elearning & Digital Cultures (#edmooc) but not before reading Sheila Macneill’s reflections on moocs in general and #oldsmooc & #edcmooc in […]

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By: Sheilamacneill http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4394 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:17:28 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4394 Hi Wayne

Thanks for your comment – I think there is potential for elements of some mooc course designs to be used very successfully, however I think that it will take a lot more research and recognition of the need for more investment in student support/staff development.

Sheila

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By: Wayne Barry http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4393 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:07:32 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4393 “Most of the MOOCs I know about are aimed at pretty well educated people – not the really dis-engaged or disadvantaged and the ones who don’t just need a “nice video” but some real face to face support.”

I think that is actually the crux of the matter. I have seen educators look at how successfully discussion boards and video games (possibly now MOOCs) have been for recreational purposes (not educational) and think how can we synthesize those very “essences” that make it great but within an educational context – however, most of our students are not as self-motivated, disciplined and enthusiastic as the people on the MOOC courses. So, it is potentially going to be an interesting challenge (or else we will be going up yet another blind alley).

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By: Sheilamacneill http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4392 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:46:41 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4392 Hi Peter

It could very well be the wrong question, I really don’t know any answers, it just was a question that came to mind.

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By: Peter Miller http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4391 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:43:10 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4391 “But are MOOCs really a stable and sustainable way of addressing this?” I’m not an expert but that sounds like the wrong question, i.e. about sustainable innovation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_innovation

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By: Sheilamacneill http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4390 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:12:32 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4390 Hi Martha

Thanks for your comment and I’m glad I’ve been able to contribute to a good start to your Friday, and I’m glad your finding #edcmooc a utopian experience.

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By: Martha Snyder http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4389 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:07:39 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4389 Sheila, I just woke up and your blog was the first on the roll. Thank you for sharing your viewpoints about the MOOC. This is my first participation in a MOOC but I’ve been a student/educator in online learning environments since the late 90’s. You said, “Wouldn’t it be nice if more of venture capitalist and Universities spent even a third of what they do on ‘systems’ on staff development and enhancing face to face teaching?” I couldn’t agree more! Like the video we watched in class (Bendito Machine III), people tend to be more enamored with the technology than the people that it’s intended to serve. I see that as dystopian. However, I’m finding somewhat of a utopian experience in this edcmooc as I am learning so much from my peers. Thank you for a good start to my Friday morning here in South Florida!

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By: Sheilamacneill http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4388 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 11:05:32 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4388 Hi Brandon

thanks for your comment. I suspect that there will be a bit more organisation of the final assessment, and yes you are right there are ways to do this. In this instance from a personal point of view, the final assessment isn’t that important for me (shock, horror!) – I’m really more about “the journey”. But I will be sharing more as we get nearer to it and my views of the assessment experience.

Sheila

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By: Brandon Muramatsu http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/2013/02/01/utopia-dystopia-technology-education-and-moocs/#comment-4387 Fri, 01 Feb 2013 10:54:53 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/sheilamacneill/?p=2018#comment-4387 Sheila, interesting post.

I’d be concerned in this case about how effective the peer assessment is going to be in the course you’re taking.

> “The final assessment is the creation of a digital artefact which will be peer assessed. Contributing to online discussions is encouraged but not mandatory.”

It sounds as if the instructors are not setting up the conditions for it to be effective. The articles that have come out on the other experiments with peer assessment seem to say that it’s really important to think about grouping of students for review (by region, native language, mixture of expertise, etc.), the use of rubrics and examples for grading and to organize the reviews, the importance of expectation setting and lots of practice. We’ve had one of the Coursera faculty talk here about his experiences and the limitations of the platform and student expectation and skill. There are ways to build this into the course, a single end of term peer assessment does not sound like it’s a recipe for success. (And there’s another one we know well which we should chat with.)

As with many educational experiences, having the right structure and organization can immensely improve the experience and outcome.

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