Comments on: Meshing up a JISC e-learning project timeline, or: It’s Linked Data on the Web, stupid http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/ Cetis blog Wed, 09 Jul 2014 09:33:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.22 By: OER Visualisation Project: Timelines, timelines, timelines [day 30] #ukoer – MASHe http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-62 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:43:49 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-62 […] posted a recipe for using a Google Gadgetized version of MIT’s SIMILE timeline widget to create a timeline of  JISC e-Learning projects. I wanted to do something different, trying to extract project events and also expand the number of […]

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By: Sheila’s work blog » Talis platform day http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-61 Thu, 20 May 2010 13:59:52 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-61 […] we support by using the programme hash tag, project links, and links from our PROD database (now Wilbert is beginning to semantify it!). This idea also reminded me of the Dev8 happiness […]

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By: Wilbert’s work blog» Blog Archive » How to meshup eportfolios, learning outcomes and learning resources using Linked Data, and why http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-60 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:10:23 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-60 […] « Meshing up a JISC e-learning project timeline, or: It’s Linked Data on the Web, stupid […]

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By: Wilbert http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-59 Sun, 28 Mar 2010 00:01:25 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-59 Hi Olaf,

Many thanks for the links; there’s a lot of interesting and highly usable stuff there.

I like the SQUIN approach, since it solves the data source discovery and selection issue, and also follows the ‘smart, hard-working client & dumb, data shoveling server’ approach I’ve tried to outline here.

As you’ve indicated, though, the SQUIN approach seems best suited for discovery oriented queries. For queries where you know the datasets, and just need up-to-date results, a ‘named graphs as RDF dumps’ approach seems fine to me so far. I know that’s technically a local data replication option, but it seems a lot easier, quicker and more timely (depending on the frequency of the data-dumps client side) than other local data replication methods.

Cheers!

Wilbert

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By: Olaf Hartig http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-58 Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:49:56 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-58 Hey Wilbert,

A few pointers that might be interesting to you:

You may want to have a look at my slides about “Querying Linked Data with SPARQL”. These slides list different options for querying Linked Data, including the pros and cons. This slideset is from the Consuming Linked Data tutorial we gave at last year’s ISWC. At the WWW conference in April we will give a similar tutorial again.

I’m working on a novel query execution paradigm called link traversal based query execution that allows to execute SPARQL queries over the Web of Linked Data (at least over connected parts of it). The idea is to discover data relevant for answering a query by following specific RDF links during the query execution itself. All that is required from the publishers is adherence to the Linked Data principles; i.e. no requirement for SPARQL endpoints. You can read about link traversal based query execution in my ISWC’09 paper “Executing SPARQL Queries over the Web of Linked Data”. A query engine that implements the query approach is part of the Semantic Web Client Library. On top of this library I implemented SQUIN which provides the functionality of the query engine as a simple Web service that can be accessed like an ordinary SPARQL endpoint.

Greetings,
Olaf

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By: Lorna’s JISC CETIS blog » When is Linked Data not Linked Data? - A summary of the debate http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-57 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:32:32 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-57 […] Meshing up a JISC e-learning project timeline, or: It’s Linked Data on the Web, stupid – Wilbert Kraan, JISC CETIS, March 2009 […]

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By: Lorna http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-56 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:57:00 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-56 Thanks Wilbert, that’s very helpful indeed. More food for thought! I’ll come back to you about this via other channels shortly.

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By: Wilbert http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-55 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:53:06 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-55 SPARQL and RDF are a sine qua non of Linked Data, IMHO. You can keep the label, widen the definition out, and include other things, but then I’d have to find another label for what I’m interested in here.

What I’m arguing for here is that for data _providers_ should focus on nicely factored graphs and sensible URIs first, and worry about SPARQL endpoints later. From a _consumers_ point of view, though, SPARQL endpoints are the place where you start.

In that sense, there is also developer preference and experience. Tony Hirst is the grand wizard of Yahoo pipes. I don’t really get that stuff; it feels like trying to do calligraphy with boxing gloves on. And that’s before considering the fact that I’m reluctant to stick a lot of time in a proprietary platform.

On the other hand, I find it very easy and natural to think in rdf and sparql, but I guess not everyone’s brain is wired that way.

Not to fret, though: the simple meshup quickly goes from the results of a SPARQL query to formats more amenable to Tony’s mashups: CSV and Google spreadsheets. JSON and XML is just as easy.

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By: Lorna http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/2010/03/12/meshing-up-a-jisc-e-learning-project-timeline-or-its-linked-data-on-the-web-stupid/#comment-54 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:35:19 +0000 http://blogs.cetis.org.uk/wilbert/?p=81#comment-54 Well done, another very useful demo! I can only claim to vaguely grasp the technicalities here however I wonder if you could say a little more about SPARQL functionality (or not as the case may be!) I’ve been reading a lot of posts recently about the necessity, or not, of SPARQL for data to become Linked Data and I wondered what your opinion was? In a recent blog post Tony Hirst has suggested that SPARQL doesn’t cut it. What do you think? Can you have Linked Data without a SPARQL endpoint?

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